Absolver 1.13 Update
Hi everyone!
We’ve pushed the 1.13 update to PC (Steam & GOG), PS4 version will be up shortly. There are a lot of changes in terms of gameplay in this version of Absolver, below you will find detailed explanations on these updates. The patch notes can be found at the bottom of the post.
New Game Details
First of all we wanted to shed some light on how some systems work in Absolver.
In the attributes panel, you can now see how your Combat Style bonuses impact your attribute points. It will make it easier for you to manage your attribute points and see where the soft caps start.
We also added a detailed version of each attack’s parameters and you can access in the attacks list panel. It features values such as range, impact on guard, stamina cost, advantage frames on hit (in gold link), etc.
We hope you’ll like it.
Gameplay Updates
Now in terms of gameplay changes, we focused on allowing more viable options to the builds you create.
Firstly, we reduced the Combat Style attribute bonuses. They were too high and did not allow you to make really meaningful choices. Now, having 2 attributes at max value will have a strong impact on the other ones.
We also increased the number of attacks having damage scaling to have strength, dexterity, and mobility become more viable attributes.
Secondly, we balanced most of the attacks. Keep in mind that because attacks can be used in different contexts (before or after any attack, with different combat styles, etc.), we need to take into account the whole roster of attacks to balance them properly. So when we work on balancing, it can impact all the attacks.
Other important point: we have fixed a nasty bug that sped up 17 attacks (including Back Tripped Kick, Double Fist Stretch and Grab Punch) and slowed down 17 others (like Spinning Wide Hook and Collar Chop) under specific conditions linked to absorb.
The main change is that we now define the gold link release value specifically for all attacks (previously it was set depending on the attack damage), and as such, we nerfed the gold link release value of fast avoid attacks and most of the fast sword attacks.
Fast avoid attacks, like Jumped Light Kick or Back Tripped Kick, were overused compared to normal fast attacks. By impacting their release value we hope to fix this. For info, their damage and damage scaling ability were already lower than normal attacks.
We applied the same kind of gold link adjustment to fast sword attacks to slowdown the pacing of the sword a bit and allow more predictability.
As a consequence, damage computation does not take the normal release in account anymore, but the gold link one. This change affects all the attacks.
For instance, Stagger Style attacks such as Hadrunken, Handstand Kick, and Donkey Slap have lost 10-15% of their damage, and attacks such as Cross Punch, Pulmonary Palm, Bending Palm have gained 10% of damage.
Thirdly, we made a move towards creating more combat variety by making the weapons more reliable.
We increased the durability & disarm gauge of all weapons as well as the disarm regen overtime when you are holding the weapon. This means that weapons will break less, and it will be harder to disarm opponents. On top of that, folding back your weapon now gives you back an amount of shards depending on the shard cost of the weapon and its current durability ratio.
We think that these changes will create more strategy around sheathing and getting back a lost weapon.
Lastly, we worked on balancing Combat Styles.
The datas we have show that Kahlt users have the biggest win ratio (59%), followed by Forsaken (51%), Windfall (47%), and then Stagger (42%).
We decided to try out some changes until we extract and analyze more detailed datas (skill rating, combat deck, etc.).
Stagger:
We added a bonus effect lasting 5s when a Stagger character avoids an attack with any avoiding attack (including its own special attacks). This bonus effect gives “stamina regen x1.2”, “actions stamina cost x0.8”, and is stackable (similarly to the bonus effect given by the Kahlt absorb).
We also increased the “stun on hit” of the stagger special attacks, and a little bit of their range.
Windfall:
We increased the stamina gain on avoid successfull (35 -> 40), and the slowdown when avoided.
Kahlt:
We added freeze frames (6 frames) on the attacker when “absorbed”. After the freeze frames, the attacker can still perform a gold link attack. It’s a slight buff against fast light attacks but will have no real impact on medium/strong attacks.
In return, these freeze frames force the Kahlt player to perform his ability twice against double-hit attacks.
We also doubled the stamina cost of the absorb ability (5 -> 10)
That’s it for balancing.
Besides that, we increased the impact of every attacks on guard to lessen “turtle-strategy” behaviours.
Thank you for your support, and please let us know what you think of these changes!
We’ve pushed the 1.13 update to PC (Steam & GOG), PS4 version will be up shortly. There are a lot of changes in terms of gameplay in this version of Absolver, below you will find detailed explanations on these updates. The patch notes can be found at the bottom of the post.
New Game Details
First of all we wanted to shed some light on how some systems work in Absolver.
In the attributes panel, you can now see how your Combat Style bonuses impact your attribute points. It will make it easier for you to manage your attribute points and see where the soft caps start.
We also added a detailed version of each attack’s parameters and you can access in the attacks list panel. It features values such as range, impact on guard, stamina cost, advantage frames on hit (in gold link), etc.
We hope you’ll like it.
Gameplay Updates
Now in terms of gameplay changes, we focused on allowing more viable options to the builds you create.
Firstly, we reduced the Combat Style attribute bonuses. They were too high and did not allow you to make really meaningful choices. Now, having 2 attributes at max value will have a strong impact on the other ones.
We also increased the number of attacks having damage scaling to have strength, dexterity, and mobility become more viable attributes.
Secondly, we balanced most of the attacks. Keep in mind that because attacks can be used in different contexts (before or after any attack, with different combat styles, etc.), we need to take into account the whole roster of attacks to balance them properly. So when we work on balancing, it can impact all the attacks.
Other important point: we have fixed a nasty bug that sped up 17 attacks (including Back Tripped Kick, Double Fist Stretch and Grab Punch) and slowed down 17 others (like Spinning Wide Hook and Collar Chop) under specific conditions linked to absorb.
The main change is that we now define the gold link release value specifically for all attacks (previously it was set depending on the attack damage), and as such, we nerfed the gold link release value of fast avoid attacks and most of the fast sword attacks.
Fast avoid attacks, like Jumped Light Kick or Back Tripped Kick, were overused compared to normal fast attacks. By impacting their release value we hope to fix this. For info, their damage and damage scaling ability were already lower than normal attacks.
We applied the same kind of gold link adjustment to fast sword attacks to slowdown the pacing of the sword a bit and allow more predictability.
As a consequence, damage computation does not take the normal release in account anymore, but the gold link one. This change affects all the attacks.
For instance, Stagger Style attacks such as Hadrunken, Handstand Kick, and Donkey Slap have lost 10-15% of their damage, and attacks such as Cross Punch, Pulmonary Palm, Bending Palm have gained 10% of damage.
Thirdly, we made a move towards creating more combat variety by making the weapons more reliable.
We increased the durability & disarm gauge of all weapons as well as the disarm regen overtime when you are holding the weapon. This means that weapons will break less, and it will be harder to disarm opponents. On top of that, folding back your weapon now gives you back an amount of shards depending on the shard cost of the weapon and its current durability ratio.
We think that these changes will create more strategy around sheathing and getting back a lost weapon.
Lastly, we worked on balancing Combat Styles.
The datas we have show that Kahlt users have the biggest win ratio (59%), followed by Forsaken (51%), Windfall (47%), and then Stagger (42%).
We decided to try out some changes until we extract and analyze more detailed datas (skill rating, combat deck, etc.).
Stagger:
We added a bonus effect lasting 5s when a Stagger character avoids an attack with any avoiding attack (including its own special attacks). This bonus effect gives “stamina regen x1.2”, “actions stamina cost x0.8”, and is stackable (similarly to the bonus effect given by the Kahlt absorb).
We also increased the “stun on hit” of the stagger special attacks, and a little bit of their range.
Windfall:
We increased the stamina gain on avoid successfull (35 -> 40), and the slowdown when avoided.
Kahlt:
We added freeze frames (6 frames) on the attacker when “absorbed”. After the freeze frames, the attacker can still perform a gold link attack. It’s a slight buff against fast light attacks but will have no real impact on medium/strong attacks.
In return, these freeze frames force the Kahlt player to perform his ability twice against double-hit attacks.
We also doubled the stamina cost of the absorb ability (5 -> 10)
That’s it for balancing.
Besides that, we increased the impact of every attacks on guard to lessen “turtle-strategy” behaviours.
Thank you for your support, and please let us know what you think of these changes!
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GAME MODES
New content
Added new 3v3 intro and outro animations, specific to combat style
Level Design modifications on the Oratian Quarters map
AFK feature: inactive players are warned, then kicked from 1v1 and 3v3 games after 60 seconds.
Debug
[SFX] Debug on intro music
[SFX] Various tweaks on music and SFX events
[Gameplay] Debug on timer notification for extra time
[Gameplay] Debug on 3v3 maps: invisible walls should not occur anymore
[UI] Fixed issue where points gauges would not update when joining an active game
OVERALL
Design Updates
Stagger:
Add stamina regen bonus (x1.2) & actions stamina cost (x0.8) during 5s when avoid with an attack.
Increase range & stun of stagger special attacks
Windfall Avoid:
Increase stamina gain (35 → 40)
Slowdown increased when avoided
Kahlt Absorb:
Add freeze frames (6) on attacker
Increase stamina cost (5 → 10)
Shockwave:
Increase stun 20 → 30
Decrease knockback when blocked 168 → 100cm
Remove stamina instant bonus
Decrease stamina regen bonus
Combat
Combat Style attribute bonuses have been decreased & attack damage scaling increased
Increase weapons durability & disarm gauge. Give back amount of shards when sheath weapon
Balancing on all attacks:
Gold link release set specifically per attack
Damage take in account this release
Grab Punch: start-up increased 19 → 21
Breaking attacks: increase knockback when blocked
Charging attacks: decrease damage and damage scaling
Increase slightly impact on stamina when guarding
Dodge anti-spam: increase release 13 → 16 (no changes when cancelled by attack or special ability)
Debug
[Gameplay] Fixed a bug where some attacks had a faster startup than expected after absorbing a hit (including Grab Punch and Back Tripped Kick)
[Gameplay] Fixed a bug where Donkey Slap 2nd hit does not connect after absorbing a hit
[Gameplay] Fixed Twist Parry Strike active frames
[Gameplay] Fixed parry direction for Twist Hips Slash and Parry Slash
[Gameplay] Set the target on middle for Spiral Palm
[Gameplay] Moved the startup visual feedback on the other arm for Collar Chop
[Dye] Various debug on dye issues with some cloaks and undertops
[Text] Various text typos fixes in English language
[SFX] Various tweaks on music and SFX events in the World and cutscenes
[UI] Debug on picto issues
[Menu] Essence Shop: Fixed a warglove issue in the shop: Barbarian War Gloves are now available
[1v1] Fixed a bug occuring when the user score was not reset after matchmaking with a different opponent
[Gear] Fixed a bug where the Tear Chief Undertop would have better stats when broken compared to repaired
Misc
The Attribute panel has been updated
Menu: The Credit menu has been updated
Dye Menu: The Dye menu layout has been updated
Attacks’ advanced details have been added
We updated the error message displayed when a player can’t get online. If the issue happens to you, please send an email to support_pc@sloclap.com or support_ps4@sloclap.com (depending on your platform) with the error code you have, we’ll look into it
I'm a little iffy on the Kahlt change, it was already becoming more dominant over parry, so it having a chance to counter it's one counter which was fast chains is going to be something that'll have to be adjusted quickly if it gets out of hand.
And I am amazed the speed up bug was found and fixed. I could not figure out what caused it, but I knew it existed.
Breaking Attacks definitely needed more, I'm looking forward to trying the game out after a long needed break from the meta infested 1.12
Can't wait to jump in and see how these changes have affected the game. Can't believe Stagger has the lowest win ratio! Let's remedy that Team Stagger! See you out there.
Now just slow at 118 but its fine cause im still a tank compared to others who have faster, weaker strikes. I have yet to get a good feel for all the changes but simply hearing the difference in my hits made my face drop lol i really love the new changes to windfall ALOT, windfall really needed a boost.
You guys/gals are amazing congratulations on the success and i hope much more is on the way
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Unfortunatly after playing for some more time i must say i feel very uncomfortable with the new gold link. Now it feels like fighting with a bunch of splittet techniques instead of a smooth combo. I really like most of the changes but i miss the old gold link
Now instead of focusing on one long combo focus on each position, for example alot of people use that spinning back hand as a starter in the top left position as a means to ensure the second move can at least be thrown out before getting tagged and combo broken. Look at each position as a tactical 3 hit combo, land those and fight accordingly and its not so bad. When you do get the gold link down again however have fun cause its really not as different as you think, thats what practice is for