Windfall: on dodging "spinning" moves

melosah

Hi everyone,
I'm playing Windfall for a while now and i've still a hard time dodging lots of moves (especially from stagger, which seem "spinning", but also other types). Then, I wonder if I'm really a dodge potato or if they are blows that can only be avoided with the basic dodge (the side shift) ? If anyone has an advice...
Many thanks.

insight

Most of those can be ducked -- but the timing on stagger is weird, so it takes some getting used to. You can only side-step vertical moves.

UNCBLOCKS

In my experience, they can be ducked or jumped but not strafed. Except drunken smash, if I'm not mistaken that one can be strafed but not ducked. I assume whirl-wind-double-punch is giving you the most trouble? That move sucks for a variety of reasons but it CAN be jumped. I kind of expected certain Stagger moves to get nerfed but it never happened (shrug). But yeah, I know the side-step is much more reliable against most fast attacks but against stagger you'll need to jump/duck.

melosah

Thanks guys. Yes, the whirl-wind-double-punch is one of them and drives me crazy... I'll try to anticipate better !

pfundie

Horizontal attacks counter windfall harder than any other class is countered in the game; Guard breaks are at least slow, and the only thing Khalt really has to pay special attention to.

They have a very tight timing, and can only be dodged from a single direction (jump, or duck). Double hitting ones are even worse, as they have to be avoided at exactly the right time, there's a sword doublehit that I believe cannot be avoided by Windfall at all because of the timing.

Neg

Mastering windfall dodge is by far the most difficult out of the classes...I actually gave up and switched to the dark side (forsaken parry).